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Support Mini-Cards, a Quick-Guide to Pre-Season 4

As many people have been requesting, I wanted to do some more support content for the upcoming season. I was not ready to do a full support-counter pick chart, as there has not been enough time to play all the matchups, but instead I brought back a mini version of the Support Card Series. Enjoy!

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Anonymous user #1

378 days ago
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Thank you for this, very useful actually, especially the adc/support combo recommendation.

Anonymous user #2

378 days ago
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What about Lux? I have had several games with her where i end up being the AP carry! She's at least decent ^^

Anonymous user #3

378 days ago
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That's why your bronze.

AWildMissingno

377 days ago
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I play her in ranked with in Gold/Plat, she's pretty decent in the right situations.

Anonymous user #4

377 days ago
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^Gold/Plat? Is that why you are in bronze 5?

Anonymous user #5

378 days ago
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Where's thresh?

Anonymous user #6

378 days ago
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4th on the first row?

Anonymous user #7

378 days ago
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Janna is a weak support? Are you kidding?

Anonymous user #8

378 days ago
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situational

Anonymous user #9

378 days ago
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She really fell off with the new patch

Anonymous user #10

378 days ago
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If you build her AP and go 0 in defense like the terrible suggestion above, then yes.

Anonymous user #11

378 days ago
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Question: are 21 points in utility really much more valuable than points in upper level defense? also, what about things like 13-17 splits?

Anonymous user #12

378 days ago
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i like how lucian sinergyzes with almost every suport. nigga's op

Anonymous user #13

378 days ago
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there are 1 more with Jinx :)

Anonymous user #14

351 days ago
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No there's not

Anonymous user #15

378 days ago
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I'm surprised you've not advocated any 0/13/17 setups I find the extra points in defense extremely valuable allowing you to pick up Perseverance & free armour at the expense of CDR, clicky CDR and out of combat MS. It works especially well on Thresh & Leona. Especially as it's so easy to get 40% CDR through itemisation now.

Anonymous user #16

377 days ago
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It's not out of combat anymore. Just says flat increase.

Anonymous user #17

378 days ago
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I'm surprised at the lack of IBG on Taric. That's the first item you rush after your Sightstone!

Spellsy

378 days ago
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i think this is an ok alternative, i think the CDR of FH is a little better though, but if you have success with IBG then go for it.

Loganm98

377 days ago
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IBG is really good on taric, don't get me wrong, but you shouldn't rush it right after sightsone, due to his q scaling a percentage of his health, so an IBG may be a later item, because it is still strong on him

Anonymous user #18

378 days ago
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I disagree with some skill orders, such as thresh maxing lantern first over flay. Personally I would go E>W=Q. Also lulu is another questionable one. Youre maxing her w last which arguably has the strongest utility, considering polymorph duration increases.

Anonymous user #19

378 days ago
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I max E on Thresh too. Unless I want to be completely defensive in lane, the I will max W

Timekeeper81

378 days ago
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Same, I was left scratching my head at some of the skill orders. This is the first time I've ever heard someone suggest maxxing Lulu's E before Q. Same with Thresh's skills. Maxxing E first for stronger poke is too valuable compared with the shield on his lantern.

Anonymous user #20

360 days ago
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lulu maxes e first because of the shield or damage potential. q is a non target skilll much better to level up e

Anonymous user #21

378 days ago
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So Leona is supposed to get the shield as a GoldIncome item, but as a core item has Ancient Coin upgrade? :D I guess that is the reason she is not a God Tier here

Anonymous user #22

377 days ago
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He states that whiching gold items mid/late game is fine ( read everything in the guide before posting)

Anonymous user #23

378 days ago
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That Lulu so cute

Spellsy

378 days ago
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SO CUTE

Anonymous user #24

377 days ago
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u tae

Anonymous user #25

378 days ago
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So... Morgana doesn't even rate? But Karma does? Just wondering...

Anonymous user #26

378 days ago
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so in what situation does Janna work now?

Loganm98

377 days ago
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With Janna and her recent nerf's, she is still good against certain champions, like ones with a certain dash (leona, lee sin, zac, tryndamere) but is a fairly squishly champion, does not do great damage in lane, and had all of her abilities nerfed, with ap ratios added to her slow and shield, but building her full ap also doesnt work well enough to play all the time and be broken, as it is rather expensive. She was my first support, and I love her, but they hit her really hard this patch.

Anonymous user #26

378 days ago
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in what situation does Janna work now?

Privelige

378 days ago
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I prefer a mixed set of quints over full Gold nowadays with the occasional 0/13/17. I do think "weak" is a strong word and situational alone does essentially the same thing. Interesting and educational nonetheless.

KimTheNukeJongUn

378 days ago
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Very nice guide, definitely something I was looking into recently! Question, though. Will you be making more mini cards with other champions people use as support that aren't on here? Morgana comes to mind at the moment. I've seen her used to some success.

Loganm98

377 days ago
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With Morgana, its weird, she has very strong poke, sustain to keep her in lane IF she is good about it, and nice teamfights, but doesnt do as much as some of the stronger supports right now, that can lock down all 5 players instantly. She is a decent support, just not as tanky as taric, or as able to lock people down like annie can

Anonymous user #27

377 days ago
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Where is lee sin support

Anonymous user #28

377 days ago
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Spellsy. I don't understand where you went with this. Mejais being in the core build for anyone just seems like your making a troll guide rather than a serious one.

Not to mention the 21pt into a tree requirement went going 0/13/17 on tanky supports could actually benefit more heavily.

Anonymous user #29

377 days ago
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LOL JANNA IS WEAK LOL HIGHEST WINRATE IN THE GAME FOR 90% OF THE LAST TWO YEARS CLEARLY TERRIBLE.

Anonymous user #30

346 days ago
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you do realize she got nerfed right?

Anonymous user #31

377 days ago
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wth i dont get how vayne is good with nami lol and im diamond... wat is thi

Anonymous user #32

377 days ago
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your runes sucks

Anonymous user #33

377 days ago
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Thanks for Support 3.14 Guide!!I translated and posted Korean site where "http://www.i...amp;l=203073"

I feel sorry because I am not good at English O.o

Spellsy

377 days ago
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cool thanks :D .. unfortunately google translate doesnt do so well on the comments so i have no idea what they are saying lol.

Anonymous user #34

377 days ago
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what bout zyra???

Anonymous user #35

375 days ago
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Reading is hard, she's in Decent Supports

Anonymous user #36

377 days ago
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"Don't buy ruby sightstone until late game, the gold is better spend elsewhere" lol. I can't agree with so much in this guide, and even so why would people take advice from someone who's in bronze 4....

Anonymous user #30

346 days ago
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ok first off hes right, you can now place a maximum of three wards, which is how many sightstone gives you. Second, he isnt actually in bronze 4, he is Diamond 1/Challenger, bronze 4 is his gamepedia rank. Third, Spellsy is a really good support and youre probably in silver

Anonymous user #37

377 days ago
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I think, designate categories as "decent" or "weak/situational" not applicable,because it depends on the ability of each player if its good that champion.Also omitted several support. And where is Quinn? No support for here?

Anonymous user #30

346 days ago
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Quinn is really better top than adc

Anonymous user #38

377 days ago
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WHERE IS URGOT?

Anonymous user #39

377 days ago
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Some parts of this guide are good... some not so much. And just because a champ has some form of cc, doesn't automatically make them a support. I'd take a good Nami or Taric support over Annie or fiddle any day. Even in late game, they're more useful to a team comp then an extra ap carry.

Anonymous user #40

315 days ago
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They are supports because of there amazing poke, peel, and stuns, allowing the ADC to trade efficiently and preform better.

Anonymous user #41

377 days ago
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Came here from Oceanic Tournaments https://www....TO?ref=br_tf

VanishedMemories

376 days ago
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The Mejai Soulstealer item actually seems reasonable in an ideal world. If your adc does good then it would be worthwhile or if you pick up lots of assists during teamfights. I also find myself avoiding ruby sightstone early in some situations.

Anonymous user #42

375 days ago
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Janna weak? Sona "decent"?? Omg, you don't know anything :'c xd

VanishedMemories

375 days ago
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They hit Janna with some nerfs. Although, AP Janna can be strong, they nerf the ratios on her skills and it takes a while to build the ap up. Sona feels lackluster early game as well. Her pokes are not strong early game as they use to in my opinion. As soon as you pick up items the problem is fixed.

Anonymous user #43

368 days ago
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no Zilean? Kazmitch play him very well! :D

Anonymous user #44

366 days ago
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is ashe good with anyone?

Anonymous user #45

365 days ago
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NUNU is shit. Nidalee same. As suupports i mean.

Anonymous user #46

364 days ago
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no leona and ezreal synergy? alright then someone doesnt know which way is up

Anonymous user #47

354 days ago
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I wonder why Nidalee was mentioned (even for situational), I feel like Elise should've been in the picture somewhere rather than Nidalee

Anonymous user #48

347 days ago
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Why isnt Draven an ADC option for Janna???

Anonymous user #49

308 days ago
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Really that maestries on sona 9/21/0??? i use 0/15/15 and no problem
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